427: What’s a Hug?

Grumpy Old Geeks. A weekly talk show hosted by Brian Schulmeister and Jason DeFilippo discussing the finer points of what went wrong on the internet and who's to blame. Welcome to Grumpy Old Geeks. I'm Jason DeFilippo.

And I'm Brian Schulmeister on day 7,842 of social isolation. All right. Let's get into it. Right. So the internet is breaking a little from the coronavirus. We talked a little bit about this when we were just starting, about what people thought was going to happen and what would and what wouldn't work.

Some things are starting to creak a bit under the strain. More and more countries are now instituting lockdowns. And the internet hasn't exactly broken, but it is definitely sparking up a little bit. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg recently told the New York Times, we're just trying to keep the lights on over here, which you should be able to do, considering the massive pile of money they're sitting on.

Exactly. He owns all the lights. What the hell? Yes. So there is soaring app usage for basically everything right now. And if Facebook is feeling the pressure, how is everybody else doing? Well, we talked about broadband. Internet speeds have been declining in various hot spots around the world as broadband providers scramble to keep up with sudden spikes in traffic.

Hubei, the Chinese province that the Wuhan has Wuhan as its capital, seen mobile broadband speeds fall by roughly 60% since January, according to UKLA, an internet monitoring service. In the U.S., declines have been negligible in some cities, but dramatic in others.

The broadband tracking service Broadband Now found that 88% of the 200 most populous cities in the country experienced some amount of network degradation in the past week. So it's kind of patchwork all over the place in the U.S., much like our response to everything.

Yeah, kind of. How about that? Video streaming. Well, we've been talking about that. Netflix, YouTube, and Amazon Prime and other streaming services have all committed to downgrading their picture quality in various parts of the world in order to avoid putting too much strain on the internet. Peak streaming times for most households lasted four hours on weekdays before the pandemic.

It's now up to 10 hours a day. Oh, my God. Wow. Netflix alone consumes 15% of the world's bandwidth. That is insane. That's insane. I wonder how much they pay for. Yeah, I know. I don't know about you, but I was trying to finish up Altered Carbon most of the last couple days, and I have 100% noticed that my Netflix is being throttled.

The quality is definitely down. Yeah, I haven't noticed that out here yet. And I do speed tests every day because I've got the Eero, and I just check it, and I'm still at full strength, at least as far as the speed tests go. I haven't really noticed anything out here except for the next one that you're going to get to.

Video games. Yes. This was the number one predictor of something that would not work very well once everybody was online and playing, and that has definitely happened. Oh, yes. Video game services are also trying to enact measures to ease up the strain they put on networks, Sony and Steam.

The virtual video game marketplace have both committed to throttle traffic from downloading games. So I'm not a gamer. Yeah, I am. Okay. Yes. Yeah. So here's the deal. Yeah. Downloading. Because these updates, I just got a new update for Gears 5, and it was like 30 gigabytes.

And I'm like, gee, so I just let it go overnight, and it's definitely cut the – the download speed is cut in half. But I've been playing Ghost Recon with Jordan Harbinger at night, and there is definitely lag, like serious lag. Like the voice quality has gone down, and there have been like serious glitches in the game over time.

And I think, you know, A, everybody's playing because there's nothing else to do besides that or watch Netflix. And I have definitely seen a degradation in network quality over the video game world. Yep. And here's one we didn't see coming, Jason.

Okay. Unemployment sites. Yes, they are crashing from the strain because last week, nearly 3.3 million Americans filed for unemployment benefits, surpassing records set in previous recessions by a jaw-dropping margin. This is insane.

Now, as you'd imagine, unemployment websites probably were not exactly built to handle a lot of strain or even, you know, built with much thought or budget to begin with. Exactly, or quality of code. Or quality. So the websites that states have to run to accept applications have been basically collapsing under the weight of this new unemployment population.

And obviously, there's not a lot of customer service either. So, you know, good luck, everyone. Yeah. You know what? Maybe the states can hire some people that are signing up on these unemployment sites as web designers or, you know, web builders. And they can come in and say, hey, can you just come fix this and we'll send you some checks?

Yeah. So, a bit more follow-up. We were talking about how Zoom likes to phone into Facebook, whether you are signed up with Facebook or not. If it's installed, they have removed this controversial code thanks to the pushback about it. Zoom insists the data collected did not include personal information but rather anonymous information about a user's device.

It has apologized for the oversight and made changes to the Facebook login process to prevent it. Zoom blames the oversight on a Facebook SDK used for the app's login with Facebook feature. It said in a statement to Vice that had only recently been made aware of what was happening in terms of data collection.

Bullshit. Yeah, well, they should have read the fucking manual because it was right there in the terms of service when you use the Facebook SDK. Somebody did not read. Nope. I got to say, though, if you are going to use Zoom, I found this from Recommendo, the newsletter that Mark Fraunfelder and Kevin Kelly do.

It's called the Web Around Portable Webcam Background Big Shot 56-inch Chroma Key Green Screen Gen 2. This looks so ridiculous. It looks so ridiculous. It's basically a big green screen circle that you attach to the back of your chair.

And you sit down, and then you can put whatever you want behind you. I think that they should make this a belt for people with standing desks. You just wrap it around you, and you walk around the house with your green screen. This would be great for people doing TikToks and things like that. Yeah.

But it is $65 plus $18.99 shipping, not available through Amazon Prime, but it is now back in stock. It was out of stock for a bit. Is it considered essential, or is it shipping in a month? I tell you what, everything that I've bought has not been throttled at all as far as shipping speed goes.

That was my prediction. My prediction is they were hedging their bets and putting those dates in, and they would ship things as they got them. I've gotten a whole bunch of things, too. So that's exactly what happened. Yeah, I don't think my V for Vendetta costume and bespoke handmade resin mask are essential items.

Well, they're essential to me for some things that I'm doing. But yeah, those things showed up exactly on time. Oh, thank God for that. I know, I know. So I've got some more tips here, because our tip show has been one of the most highly reacted to shows I think we've ever done.

We've gotten the most positive feedback from that show than almost anything we've ever done. Well, look at us. We know things. We drink and we know things. Yeah, so a few of these tips are new, and some are from when I ran a minimalist blog back in the day called Spartanize.com.

And that's when I was doing research on how to be happy working from home and living a minimalist lifestyle. So here are a few ones. This one is brand new, though. I found this one out, and I've never known it. Use a spoon to peel ginger instead of a knife. It's lame. Have you ever done it?

I have excellent knife skills. I'm quite fine. Dude, try it. You get more ginger out of the ginger, and it's so much easier. You're not going to cut yourself. It goes twice as fast than a knife. And you can even have your kids do it. Maybe not your kids because he's only three.

A little old town, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, a little older, then you just put them off and say, peel me some ginger, junior. But try it. Get a spoon, something with a thick edge, and peel your ginger with that because we have ginger tea every day because it's good for the immune system, and it's delicious.

Yes. And we've seen around the neighborhood, all the people are walking around with their kids in the afternoons. What they've done in my neighborhood is it's called a teddy bear hunt. So people with kids and have spare teddy bears, they put the teddy bears in the windows.

So when the kids are walking around, the parents are like, look out for the teddy bears. And, like, as the kids are walking around, it gives them something to do. So they're looking for teddy bears throughout the neighborhood to see where the other kids live. I thought it was a really cool idea. The kids were really into it. That was definitely very cute. I don't live on the kind of street where we have a bunch of kids.

But if you do, that's a great idea. Love it. Yeah, these kids are totally upward every day. And, like, you know, people are swapping out their teddy bears. They're moving them from window to window so they're not in the same place every day. It's just something that all the parents in the neighborhood got together and did. And I thought that was a pretty cool idea.

Right. Very nice. I like that. And we talked about keeping your place clean. And a lot of people are like, I just can't do it, man. I can't do it. I'm just too tired. It's such a daunting task to clean my entire place. Well, here's the tip. One room a day. Yeah, you don't have to clean your entire house every day.

That's silly. Exactly. But some people interpreted what we said as you got to clean your house every day. It's like, no. Start with one room. Next day, do another room. And then just cycle through them until your whole house is clean. And then it's easier to keep them tidy. Yeah, definitely. So, yeah, just do one room a day and just cycle through.

And the other one is, this is just a no-brainer for me, but I guess a lot of people don't understand this one. Never go to bed with dishes in the sink. Ever. Yeah. You have no idea how many people just like, oh, they cook dinner, leave the stuff in there, like, I'll clean it up in the morning.

No, no, no, no, no, no. You want to clean your kitchen before you go to bed. So when you wake up in the morning, you come into a clean kitchen and you start your day without this low level of anxiety saying, shit, this is another thing I got to clean today. Period. Yeah, I mean, we've got three people in the house here all day, every day now for almost three weeks.

I'm running the dishwasher every single night. That's my last task before I go to bed is, you know, put that wine glass in the dishwasher. It's the last thing. It's pretty damn full because we're going through a ton of dishes every single day. And I start it and go to bed. That is part of the nightly ritual. Yeah, we don't have a dishwasher.

So it's, we have to clean the dishes. You are the dishwasher. Yes, throughout the day. So it's like when you leave them in there, then you have to do it. People with dishwashers, yeah. Bougie fucks. We don't have that luxury. So, yeah, we clean the dishes throughout the day. That's, it reminds me like when I used to go on vacation, I would always make sure that my bed and my house were completely clean before I left.

Oh, yes. So when I came home, yeah. Yeah. When I came home, I just came into a perfectly clean house and it just felt so good to come home. There are people that just like leave a mess like, ah, screw it. I'm going on vacation. I'll clean it when I get home. Nope. Wrong way to do it. You're doing it wrong. My last one, this was a, this was a really, it got a ton of great feedback when I ran it on Spartanize.

If you have a bunch of books that you want to read during this, you know, forced vacation, what you want to do is you want to hide all of the books that you're not reading at the current moment. Because every time you walk past that bookshelf, you're going to have this whole paradox of choice problem where you're just going to get stressed and anxious.

It's like, I could be reading all of these books right now. No, you can't. You can only read one book at a time. So hide the books. If you can't put them away, cover them. Just get a, you know, pillowcase or a sheet or whatever your bookcase situation is. Just cover them up and keep one book out that is the one that you're reading. You'll focus on that book.

You'll get more read and you will have less stress worrying about how much stuff you're not getting done. And the digital version of that, of course, is only buy one at a time. You can save them into your cart, save them for later on Amazon, whatever you want to do. But just purchase and download one at a time. Yeah, exactly.

Definitely. And I was talking to a friend of the show, Dan Nitro Clark, Mr. American Gladiator. And he's stuck in a two-bedroom apartment with his girlfriend, her eight-year-old son, and two dogs. And he's like, you know, he's getting a little bit of the cabin fever, too.

And I'm just like, dude, just think of it as a forced, mandatory vacation and just relax. Take a breather. A forced, mandatory, unpaid vacation for most people. Unpaid vacation. Yes, there's also that. Yes, the unpaid part really sucks. But he's a writer.

So I'm like, take this time to sit down and write. Find that time to yourself to, like, you know, pretend that you're in Bali at night. When the kids go to bed, the wife goes to bed, or the girlfriend goes to bed, pretend you're in Bali. And you're sitting there.

The windows are open. The sea breeze is coming in. You sit down to your typewriter, and you write a masterpiece. Right. And he's like, okay, I like that. Now, you know, I know, like, sadly, half this country is still not even on lockdown and is doing whatever they want. But for those of us that...

Don't get me started. We're not going to talk about that, because that's not what this podcast is about. But for those of us that have been living in this nightmare for a while, we're about to hit the really tough patch. So buckle up, people. Time to get that discipline in. Follow our tips. It's about to get really, really hard.

You know, you and I are both really good at working from home, but this is not the same thing. This is insane. It's going to get tough. So treat yourself well. Build in some treats for yourself. Alone time is beyond key. Even if it's just do a 20-minute walk by yourself, switch off with the various members of your family, you know, switch off with the wife, with the girlfriend, get some alone time in, get as much as you can throughout the day without, you know, emotionally distancing yourself as well.

That's not good, because you're going to be stuck in this house with this other person for at least another month. So hang in there, everybody. Yeah. And, you know, you and I started a little bit earlier than most people. Well, some people haven't even started yet. Yes. They're getting ready to jump in probably.

At about three and a half weeks, you start to get a groove, I think, and things get easier because, you know, habits form at about three weeks and you start to finally get a groove. And it does get better. It does lighten up. And then you're just like, yeah. And we'll talk about this a little bit in Media Candy.

But when you watch TV, and I know my roommate and I are watching this stuff, and people are going up shaking hands. We're like, no, six feet, six feet. It's so weird to watch TV in the time before the virus. I know. What's a hug? In the news.

Well, it turns out people that work at Instacart and Amazon and Whole Foods and a lot of people on the front lines of this and all over the world are not very happy about how their companies are treating them, and they're going to go on strike. Just the perfect time we need. That would not be good right now.

It's going to be very, very bad. Yes. Hundreds of thousands of Instacart employees are just about ready to say, screw you guys. We're going home. Right. Because Instacart is not giving them hazard pay, which is stupid. Yep. They're not giving them proper support at all.

Yep. Amazon has shit the bed yet again by not disclosing to their employees when there is a case in the warehouses. So people are walking out of the warehouses. And today, which is Tuesday. Remind me for a second, Jason, who's the richest person in the world right now? Jeff Bezos. Oh, okay.

Interesting. Okay. Yeah. And yes, and to get to Jeff Bezos, today is the day that a lot of Whole Foods employees are staging a sick out and calling in sick because they feel that they are not being treated well as well.

I went to a Whole Foods yesterday because I had to drop off a package that I needed to return and do the whole scan thing. It was great. I walked in, didn't touch a damn thing, held my breath the entire time I was in the store trying to find the service desk to return it. And when I finally did, I got up there.

We stood way far apart. And I put my package down on the counter. He put his gloves on. He picked up the package and said, do you have the QR code? I was like, yes, I do. I pulled up the QR code on my phone. I set it gently down on the counter. And he walked over to it and scanned it.

And I picked it back up, put it back in my pocket so I could disinfect it when I got home and got the hell out of there. But the point of this is I went into a Whole Foods and everybody in that place is miserable. Absolutely miserable. They're just like, welcome to Whole Foods.

And everybody's pensive. And I go to the regular grocery stores and everybody's wearing masks and gloves. But, you know, you go to Whole Foods and they're wearing masks and gloves and yoga pants. That's the difference. Right. But, yeah, it's like if I go to a regular grocery store, there's an hour wait to get in.

Whole Foods, I just walked right in. They're not like capping people going in or anything like that. They're not counting people, which is crazy. You know, there's only 10 families allowed into my local Ralph's, which is a mega grocery store. Right. And Whole Foods, you can just walk in and out. I'm just like, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

So now I kind of understand why they're pissed. Yeah. Well, again, I mean, the rules are all we've got a patchwork of systems going everywhere. And we really need to codify all this stuff. And, yeah, make it safer for everybody involved, especially these people who are getting paid next to nothing to begin with. Yeah. And I also noticed that the mega grocery stores, they've actually put up giant plexiglass shields in between you and the person working the register.

And none of that at Whole Foods. There's no protection whatsoever for the people that are there, which is, you know. At the very minimum, they should be getting masks. But, you know, they aren't. Yeah. Yeah. None of the employees had masks on. You know, again, I almost see this starting to become the new normal.

I'm not sure how we're going to ever get back to this the way we did things before when this is all gone. But I'm a little surprised that you aren't able to sign up online like, well, I'm not surprised because, you know, companies aren't really good at getting processes in place. But something that they should be doing at this point, like all the grocery stores, the Ralph's, the Whole Foods and everything, you should be able to go to their site or go to an app and be able to schedule a time to go in.

And that way they could really keep the flow of people to manageable levels without huge lines snaking around the block. Now, obviously, you know, in an emergency, you get to go and there's a separate line for people that haven't signed up. And, you know, three people that signed up go in, one person that didn't sign up goes in, that sort of thing.

So you're basically trying to turn the grocery store into the DMV. Yeah, well, we need something. Well, just to add in line, my roommate is over 60, so she gets to go in early in the morning and skip the line because there's, you know, they actually cut the elderly hours down.

Elderly, she's 60. Come on, it's not that elderly. But because a lot of people weren't showing up. So she went in and it turns out that people are going in with their grandparents or whatever and basically buying all the staples before everybody else gets there. So you have to get there first thing in the morning. Right.

Or you're not getting that teepee. You're not getting those paper towels at all. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. It is totally crazy. So, but, you know, I wish Instacart would step up because there's a lot of these companies that are just like after this whole thing's over are just going to be, you know, for years are going to be living this down.

And maybe they might not. You know, this is their time to shine, but they're not shining. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, come on, man. Get some more funding. If that's the problem, if you can't pay people, Silicon Valley is not really invested in a lot right now because everybody's hunkering down. Just go out and say, hey, guys, can I get another couple hundred million to keep this show going?

And the people that invest in that and the people who get behind it to make sure everybody's safe while this whole thing's going on, those people are going to be heroes at the end of this. And if they're plain and transparent about it and say this is exactly why we want the money and this is exactly what we're going to use it for, you're going to get it. People are really concerned about this aspect of our society right now.

We are relying on these people and we're all behind them. Well, at least in some states. Other states, maybe not so much. Okay. Well, we're just going to do this whole podcast, assuming all the country is being sane like we are. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Over at the Wall Street Journal, they've got an article about government tracking how people move around in coronavirus pandemic.

It is nice to know that what we assumed was going on the whole time has been and is. Dude, yeah. And wait till the next story. Yeah. So they're buying data from all the advertising companies and they're using that to track patterns of the spread of the virus.

Yep. So I'm just going to jump to this next one because this next one is the one that just made me put my hands up in the air and say, fuck it. They've got it all already. Video shows cell phones on Florida Beach during spring break and where they've traveled during coronavirus outbreak. Now, this company, who it was Tectonics?

Yeah, Tectonics. They've got this visualization platform and they show them in this video going to a certain point in time, going to a certain beach and using a mouse to just circle a cohort of people and then track them over time.

Yep. This technology is fucking space age. I was just, I was floored. It's insane. They know where we are at all times and they can keep screaming about how it's anonymized, but that's bullshit because all you have to do is track that for a while and figure out what house these people keep going back to because that's where they live.

That's where they live. You can find out where they work. You can de-anonymize every little dot on the entire country. We are all being followed everywhere we go. And it was watching this video. I'm like, fuck it. I'm just going to go back to Facebook. That's it. Might as well.

I might as well. They've got it. They've got it. There's no getting away from it. Hiding is a fool's errand at this point. If you own a cell phone and you have a computer and you're on the internet, it's over. Game over, man. And I'm like, you know what? That's okay. Good.

I don't have to worry about this anymore. That's one giant burden lifted off my shoulders that I don't have to worry about the surveillance state anymore because they've just proven that it completely exists with their own video. And then the Wall Street Journal is like, yeah, the government just bought it, so we don't have to worry about laws or privacy laws or anything like that.

They just bought the data from the advertisers and they're using it. So it's like, guys, just give up the ghost. We always joke that Steve Rombaum's videos, Privacy is Dead, get over it. And we thought we still had a chance, a fighting chance. Yeah, we don't.

They won. They won. Completely they won. So check out the video. This is from the Orlando Weekly, but yeah, the video shows cell phones on Florida Beach. You have to watch this video. And just to understand the level of technical prowess that these guys have, it was out of a movie.

I swear to God. If I saw this in a movie, I'd have thought it was bullshit. Yeah, I'd be like, boy, look at that dystopia in the far future. Yeah. Oh, wait. No, that's now. They did it. You damn dirty apes. I swear to God, I think we need to retire the security segment.

I know. It's over. Sorry, Dave. You're fired. Sorry, Dave. We know where you are. Walking around the office in his furry outfit, having a couple of beers during the day. That's where Dave's at. Yeah. Well, some more Amazon news.

Remember last weekend, which feels like five years ago, when all of a sudden everybody got the late April shipping dates, which, as we talked about, didn't really happen. For most of us, because they were trying to focus just on essential items. Well, there have been ways to get a lot of things a lot quicker.

Amazon has been hiding listings from competing sellers on its marketplace that promise to deliver the same products at earlier dates. Oh, shocking. Yeah. Categories ranging from sporting goods to office equipment. Amazon sellers have been offering some of these same items at the same or lower prices with earlier delivery dates than Amazon has.

But the Amazon algorithm, which decides which seller wins a given product sale for a listing, has favorite items sold directly by Amazon. Shocking. Yeah. So this is an Amazon's ecosystem. Winning a sale of an item sold by multiple sellers is known as winning the buy box.

And after Recode alerted Amazon to the issue, the company spokesperson said the hidden listings are unintentional and that the company is urgently working on a fix. Yeah. Sure they are. Yeah. So it's awesome. It's gaming the system. But it is their system to game, is it not?

Monopoly. Yes, it is a monopoly. Anyways. And somewhat decent Amazon news. They are offering warehouse workers higher pay to handle Prime Now groceries. So they are stepping up, at least for some of the employees. But we'll see what happens.

A spokesperson described the hikes as temporary opportunities meant to reflect a significant increase in grocery orders. So we'll see what happens with that. And of course, it'll go away when this is all over. Yeah. Yeah, of course. And the Zuck is teaming up with Bill Gates to try to find a drug to treat the coronavirus.

Zuckerberg and his wife Priscilla Chan are putting $25 million of their money behind an effort to develop therapeutic treatments. They're giving it to Gates Foundation, which is organizing the effort called the COVID-19 Therapeutics Accelerator. Gates started it with $50 million.

So Zuck's giving half of what Gates did and the donation from them brings the total funding to $125 million right now. So that's nice. That's the kind of normal way that really, really rich people try to help out. But of course, I did see a very funny tweet about this.

Somebody wrote in, inspired by Chan and Zuckerberg, my husband and I have decided to donate the equivalent amount of our income. Where should we send our check for $4 to? I saw another one that was a girl that had a glass of black liquid and she used an eyedropper and said, this is Mark Zuckerberg's fortune.

And she used an eyedropper and pulled out like two cc's and put it in the other one. It's like, this is his donation to the COVID problem. Well, remember, he's working really hard to keep the lights on over at Facebook right now. Yeah. It was literally a drop in the bucket.

Yes. And as we discussed, the scooter situation has come to come to a head here. Bird has laid off about 30% of its employees amid the uncertainty caused by the coronavirus. This works out to about 406 people laid off out of 13,000 or 1,300 employees, roughly.

I can't believe they had 1,300 employees. And that doesn't even count the, you know, army of people, the bird collectors. Because they're not employees. These are actual employees. So they are providing four weeks of pay, three months of health coverage, and an extended time frame of 12 months to exercise stock options.

Which, why you bought stock in this company to begin with is beyond me, but I suppose it's an employee benefit. It's a perk, yeah. In lieu of pay. So, according to a source, the balance sheet is strong, but it needed to reduce burn in order to extend its runway into 2021.

So, coronavirus gave them an excuse to reduce their burn. Yeah. So, Lime is looking for funding round that would cut its valuation from $2.4 billion to $400 million. Just $400 million more than it should be. Which is still $400 million more than it should be, yes.

But they lost roughly $2 billion in value in just the last couple weeks. And, of course, they have both suspended their respective services in response to the pandemic. Because otherwise, they would be a goddamn vector. Yep. Exactly. That's what I said the first time.

Yep. Like, could this be bird flu? Yes.

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Media Candy. Well, as I mentioned, my throttled Netflix. I finished up the last season of Altered Carbon. It was all right. It was all right. Yeah.

Yeah. The ending was kind of meh. I don't know what's going to happen next. I kind of don't care. I don't care either. I kind of wish I wouldn't have seen the second season. Because I liked the first season a lot. I did too. And then the second season was just like a completely different thing.

And I'm like, I want to go back and watch the first season and scrub the second one from my mind. Totally. And I've got to say, as much as, you know, being male, I appreciate it. The nudity that we got in the last episode of the last season, because you knew that girl was going to have to get naked at some point.

Because the show's about girls getting naked. It was entirely unnecessary and completely woven into the plot just to have somebody naked in it. Yeah. I mean, the first season, it kind of made a lot of sense with all the nudity because it was just like, oh, these are just nothing. They're sleeves. Yeah. They're just bodies.

Who cares? Yeah. But yeah, it was – and they completely, you know, scrubbed that out of the second season. Like the first season was like, you know, watching Skinamax at night in the 90s, you know, or the 80s. Yeah. It was totally gratuitous. And it feels like they got to the last episode and went, oh, we haven't used our actress naked yet.

So we better get that in there. Quick, boobs, stat. Yes. I finished the session. It's a great show. Although I – again, like I said right now, I'm having a lot of difficulty with shows that have no redeeming characters or values whatsoever. But it was great.

I mean, the acting is just flat out phenomenal. The writing is phenomenal. I am looking forward to more of that. My kids' survival playlist has been Toy Story 1 through 4, Moana, and Frozen 1 or 2. If I have to see these movies again once this is all over, I will stab my eyeballs with ice picks.

Okay. Or you could just unplug the ethernet and say we're done. A bunch of people have sent me this link, which I thought was really good. This is called What Makes This Song Great. It's a YouTube series by this guy. I'm trying to remember his name right now.

What the hell is his name? Sorry about that. Rick Beato. And he is a musician slash engineer of training, and he basically breaks down songs. It's a really well-done series. And, of course, the first one is about the cures, Just Like Heaven. So that was pretty great. I actually subscribed to his channel after I saw this because I like how he does that sort of work.

The show Messiah that I actually really enjoyed on Netflix. Netflix has been canceled after just the one season. So I will never have an answer to the mystery. And it proves my rule of waiting for at least three seasons before I watch anything. So there's no real answer.

Netflix has not commented on why they're canceling it. One of the reasons that is being assumed is because it involves shooting in numerous different countries, which may be logistically challenging given the coronavirus pandemic right now. But also stupid people wrote a bunch of letters saying, hey, man, don't make fun of the Jesus.

Oh, why can't you make fun of the Jesus? I don't know. And for those of us missing sports ball, this probably isn't going to help at all because most people that are super into the sports ball don't really want to watch a bunch of people playing a video game. But Fox Sports is going to air a Madden NFL 20 tournament on March 29th.

Yes, because they've already done a NASCAR eSports race with actual drivers. They are now going to do a football tournament with some players. Yeah. Oh, man. Well, I got to say some of the new stuff that's coming out.

I know this is probably not in your wheelhouse. Did you watch Ozark? No, I haven't. It's kind of on the list to get to. But again, you know, parents slowly lose their minds when people make posts on social media about how bored they are in this downtime because parents have no downtime.

Okay. Ozark season three has dropped. So now it has hit your criteria for three seasons. It is a fantastic show. I am dying to jump into season three. We just haven't gotten to it yet. Right. I got this link from front of the show MXV. All of classic Doctor Who is now streaming for free.

So this is over at Pluto.TV. I don't know if it's Pluto.TV. It's Pluto TV. Look it up. It's one of those apps that you can get on your smart TV or stick or whatever the hell it is. Well, Doctor Who certainly meets my criteria for at least three seasons. Yes, it does.

Yes, it does. I've been meaning to get into Doctor Who for about 20 years. So I guess there's no time like the present. Well, they're going to be running the serial from William Hartnell's original 1963 debut up to Sylvester McCoy in 1989.

They cut a deal with the BBC and started to run those. The thing about Pluto TV is they don't run it like a normal streaming service. It's scheduled like a broadcast network. So you have to look up when your show is going to be on. Do they have a virtual DVR built into it?

I have no idea. It's free. So probably not. Right. Well, at least the Doctor Who episodes are free. Go check it out if you're into the Who. I have all this stuff ripped to a hard drive, so I don't need it. But all good. Now, we talked about shows to watch to take your mind off of things and how to put things on in the background.

I've gotten into really dumb shows to really take my mind off of things. And my roommate and I have discovered Supermarket Stakeout on the Food Network. I hate that show. I love that show. It is so dumb. But it's great. Yes, it is dumb.

I tell you, you want to turn your brain off for an hour? Go watch Supermarket Stakeout. Because the premise is people have to go get groceries. They give them $500. They buy groceries from people coming out of the store. And then they have to make something in a genre. And then they go head to head on it.

Right. And it's fun. The standing in front trying to get groceries from people part is really dumb. But the stuff that they have to make from the crappy ingredients they get, that's the fun part. Right. There's some good stuff in there. You know, I'm a firm Food Network fan. Don't get me wrong.

I just don't like the reality show stuff. Except for, and I do fall into this trap all the time, diners, drive-ins, and dives. Say what you will about Guy Fieri. I love that damn show. It's a great show. I'm with you. I don't know why everybody's down on that guy. I love that show.

Go check out the hashtag. Go check out. There are amazing threads on Twitter right now about people saying how Guy Fieri is basically America in a nutshell. And everybody leave him alone. He's a goddamn national treasure. Perfect. I mean, look at what happened at the Paradise Fires.

He went up there with his whole crew and, like, you know, did barbecue for hundreds of firemen. I think the guy's okay. I don't know what everybody's pissed off about, you know? I mean, I wouldn't eat at one of his restaurants, but I think he's great. I would totally eat at one of his restaurants. I don't know. The other show that we watched to turn your mind off is called Love It or List It over on HGTV.

Have you ever seen this one? I have. Yeah. When back in the day before we actually owned houses, we really enjoyed this show. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. Home repair in the days of the coronavirus are a chore. I did watch Bad Boys for Life this week.

Oh, yeah. I mean, I wasn't a big fan of the series anyways, but did it keep up to the standards of the other ones? Totally. I loved it. That's good. All right. I mean, it's popcorn fun. It is popcorn fun. It is so formulaic. You know exactly what's going to happen through the entire thing, but that's what makes it fun.

Yeah. This is not a time to watch stuff that makes you think. No, no. I got back into some video gaming at night, like I mentioned before, with Jordan Harbinger. We've been playing Ghost Recon Breakpoint, which is a really cool game. It's one of the Tom Clancy games, and I'm playing this, and there's a character in there, and I'm like, I know that guy.

I totally know that guy. I know that voice, and they based the character on this guy's affectations and everything, and it finally clicked one time, and I'm like, this can't be right. This can't be right. It's Rodney Mullen, the skateboarder, the pro skateboarder, and I'm like, what the hell is Rodney Mullen doing in this game?

I mean, that can't be him, and I looked it up. Sure, shit. It's Rodney Mullen doing voiceover for video games. Don't know who Rodney Mullen is. Don't know what Ghost Recon is. Rodney Mullen is, you think Tony Hawk invented everything? No, Rodney Mullen invented everything. Tony Hawk just did it on vert. Rodney Mullen is the greatest skateboarder of all time, hands down.

And I saw this, and I thought of you. The Honest Trailers for Star Wars, The Rise of Skywalker came out, and I thought it was picture perfect. Did you get a chance to watch it? I haven't watched it yet, because I actually want to watch the movie again one more time before I do, because it's all a bit fuzzy right now. Okay.

But it's bookmarked. Yeah, you do. It's bookmarked. Yeah, you have to watch it, because it just tears in a way that Honest Trailers only can do. Right. It tears it down. And this has obviously been making the rounds. The Bobby E. Kelly song, Stay the Fuck It Home, based on an original poem by Chris Franklin.

We have all of that in the show notes, and we will close the show with the song, because you just gotta. It's just so good. At the library. I don't know about you, Jason, but sitting down to read has been exceptionally difficult in this particular period of time, so I have not finished a book that I've been working on yet.

But something to make your life a little bit easier if you are a parent right now. This is a cool thing. The Sesame Workshop is doing its best to help us out. It made a trove of e-books available for free now, so hours and hours of time reading and learning for the kids, and hours and hours of time, you get a goddamn break.

There are 110 total titles that can be downloaded from all the major e-book platforms, including Amazon Kindle, Apple Books, Google Play, Barnes & Noble, Nook, Kobo, etc., etc. And there's not even an expiration date at the moment, although we know how this works. Those books can be pulled from you at any time, because they're free and you don't own them.

Right. Your kid can't read yet, can he? Starting to, very slowly. I'm actually a good... Well, now that I've used it for a few weeks, I'll mention this right now. ABC Mouse is awesome. Awesome. So parents out there that are struggling to figure out how to give some actual education to your kids, go check it out.

It's pretty great. What is it? Is it an app or a show? It's an app. It's a learning app that comes with basically curriculum for different age levels. It's just been great. My kid absolutely loves it. So he's starting to learn all of his letters and recognize them and all that sort of stuff and even being able to draw them.

And it's all for different age ranges. So I think it goes up to, like, you know, basically junior high school in terms of lesson plans. So really good. Cool. What was it called again? ABC Mouse. Poor Quibi.

The Quick Byte streaming service that kept pushing themselves as we're all so busy we don't have a lot of time. Watch this five-minute movie made by this stupid celebrity has just launched when most of the world is completely bored out of their mind and watching as much as humanly possible. We want the extended versions of Lords of the Rings right now, Quibi.

Not five minutes. You either want five seconds, like on TikTok, or you want five hours. Yes. That's about it. So poor timing there. But I suppose because everybody's at home and desperate to find anything, they're probably actually getting some pretty decent stats because, you know, content.

We'll see. Well, you know, they launched. Do they have record-breaking download numbers? Yes, of course. We've had more downloads than ever before. Oh, God. And, you know, the moron, of course, is obviously, what's his name? Alex Jones.

But the moron in this story is Google for waiting so damn long. Google has finally pulled InfoWars from the Play Store. Because he did coronavirus misinformation. Shocking. So, you know, where the hell have you been, Google? Yeah. I mean, the FTC got him already for claiming that his toothpaste can cure the coronavirus.

I'm like, what the? How is this guy still a thing? Well, he's been deplatformed everywhere now, so I don't know how he's still a thing. Oh, my God. Poor Alex. Poor Alex. Frogs are turning gay. Feedback loop.

Over at Patreon, we've got two new subscribers, Casey and Peter. And thanks to everyone that's upped their pledges over the last few weeks. Man, thank you so much. And over at PayPal, we've got Simon, Michael, James, Florian, Scott, Judge, Stephen, John, Anne, Kristen. And Kristen says, thanks for the grumpiness, now more than ever.

And Levi writes in, hey, grumps, since I'm in the cloud business, days are not so bleak. So while managing to bump up the payout of my company, I might as well bump up my contribution. Thank you for what you are doing. Greetings from Levi in Denmark. And I got to say, I looked at the PayPal numbers the other day.

Man, you guys are incredibly generous. I cannot believe it. Thank you so much. Yes, thank you so much. You guys also have a lot more time on your hands. This is easily the most feedback we've ever gotten before. And some of it is very long. And because we don't want to do an hour and a half show, we will be on the fly editing things for brevity.

So apologies if there was some really good joke that you had in there that we're cutting out. Over on Twitter, Jackal, J4CKL3, which I'm assuming is some variation of that, wrote in, one of the factors of working from home for us geeks is the impulse shopping that comes out of surfing during downtime.

Recently for myself, I bought a nice USB-C 3.1 RAID storage. Afterwards, I was left thinking, what the fuck do I do with 40 terabytes of storage? You donate some of it to Jason. Start a podcast. That's what you do. Yeah. And Moz6502 writes in, and it says, not such an insensitive gift now, was it?

And it's a tweet from, was it, Elika Sedegi? And it's a photo of the Peloton girl from the commercial. And Martin sent in a link as well. You might want to avoid calling the virus coronavirus. It isn't very nice. No, coronavirus. Oh, the Kona virus.

It isn't very nice in Portuguese. And it's a link of Richard Hammond explaining that. Yes, yes. Very funny. The Kona is interesting in Portuguese. Over at GOG.show, Ryan writes in, I was surprised to hear Brian mentioned Vapor Space on the 328 show. Gravitational Arch of 10 was a favorite of mine when it came out back in 1993.

There's a funny thing I learned earlier this month about the song from a YouTube video posted on March 3rd, 2020, of an interview from November 1993 with Mark Gage of Vapor Space. The song was supposed to be called the Gravitational Arch of Io, as in the moon of Jupiter. It was an error made when the CD went to manufacturing or print.

After all these years, the title finally makes sense to me. Oops. That does make a lot more sense. I always wondered, what's the Gravitational Arch of 10? Exactly. Cameron writes in, I follow eSports, and when I heard about the reason one of the best players in the world left an organization, I found out it had to do with employment laws in the UK.

I found this, and this is the Citizens Advice site for the UK that says check out how many hours you're working, because there are actual limits to how much you're supposed to be working by law. Wouldn't that be nice in the US, he says. I wonder how many companies are using the virus to get 80-hour work weeks out of employees that can work from home because you're lucky to have a job given the current climate.

If you haven't noticed, I have a heck of a lot more time to write you guys down. Yes, you all do. Thank you. Oh, man. And Evan writes in, hey, Grumps, this is a shameless plug, but I just launched a site called Dear Mr. Ward, which features letters that my grandmother saved when she worked in the complaints department of Montgomery Ward in the 1930s.

I thought you might get a kick out of the letters from grumpy old farmers of days gone by. The first batch is all about toilet paper or the lack thereof. I'll be posting a new batch of letters every Tuesday through October and maybe some additional stuff if it turns up. So that's over at DearMrWard.com.

Link will be in the show notes. It's very cool. Very cool. And Amanda writes in saying, greetings from essential manufacturing. I've had a hard time following the show since we went to continuous 24 by 7 operations, but I hope you are both doing well on your side of the national Petri dish. She gets into a lot of her experiences there.

Hang in there. You are essential services. We really appreciate everything you're doing, and we're very glad that we can actually make you laugh when you get a chance to listen. So thank you very much, Amanda. And obviously, this is one of the ones we're editing for brevity. Yes, it's a very long one, but yeah, you're doing great work over there, and she just talks about how they're staying safe doing what they're doing.

Dark humor. Lots of dark humor. Lots of dark humor is the way to get through this. Yes. Yes. And Fiend of the Show, Barrett Reese writes in, because of this, and it's a link to an article. I think everybody's seen this picture right now, but it's of Robert Smith of The Cure. Monday, you can stay indoors.

Tuesday, Wednesday, stay indoors. Thursday, stay indoors. Instead, it's Friday. Stay indoors. Stay indoors. And Mama Cow sent in my personal favorite bit of feedback we've ever gotten for the show. This show would be so much greater without the arrogant, egocentric, stupid Jason.

Of course, that would be your favorite. Honestly, it was my favorite, too. I like it when they call us out. I think it's great. You know, everybody has a favorite. Yep, yep. Must be a Trump fan. And some grumpy old cyber chick writes us, hello, grumpers.

Could you lend a hand to an old grumpster? You mentioned in last week's show that you will be demanding a refund from Prime since they are not providing you with the services you are paying for. Could you please help me with the wording and how to proceed myself? I have been an exemplary citizen practicing social distancing my entire life. For just over two years, I have been even more of an exemplary citizen practicing self-isolation, only emerging from quarantine every other week, if not more.

Jokes aside, I am legally blind and a chronic social distancer. I reply desperately on the Amazon Prime now two-hour delivery service for my food and essentials. I totally appreciate Amazon cannot run that service at the moment. Four weeks ago, you could only order a day and a half in advance, which was a luxury compared to over two weeks ago when it stopped altogether.

And then she goes through all of the processes that she's gone through to try to get stuff and try to get in touch with Amazon service. We were kind of joking about getting a refund from Amazon Prime because that's never going to happen.

And yeah, their customer service is a mess. It's a total mess. There is no way to get a hold of everyone. So keep trying, try and use other services as well. Have backups, you know, use whatever you can. My wife has become a goddamn ninja at online ordering of essentials using a variety of different sites, Instacart, Amazon, Target, etc.

All of which are on strike now. All of which are on strike now. You got to do what you got to do. And don't hope that you're going to get a hold of Amazon customer service because you're probably not going to and they're probably not going to be able to do anything for you right now. They are just being overrun. So hang in there.

Keep safe. Yep. And she's in London. So if anybody can help her out that's in London, let us know. We'll hook you guys up and maybe we can have a have a connection there. Sissy writes in. This was a heartbreaker. My cat went to the kitty doctor for what I thought was a hairball stuck in his booty.

It turns out he's dying. I'm heartbroken. He's at the kitty hospital now alone. Normally, I'd visit him and hang out while he has his treatments, but I can't go to the vet. This cat has been through a lot with me. It's really sad because everything in the house reminds me of him. And this is a sudden thing. Normally, I'd go to the gym and really hammer out a workout, but I can't.

My husband is keeping a close eye on me and getting daily updates on my cat. Do you all have any suggestions on what I can do to distract myself? Well, sorry, sissy. I mean, I'm heartbroken for you. I know what that's like. I've been through it. It's terrible. I would say video games. Find an immersive, long-form video game and dive into it.

That's when I lost basically all my cats. I would find a new video game and just – it takes you out of it for a while. And you can get immersed in that world and just forget about things. And it's – yeah, it's a tough one, sissy. I'm really sorry to hear that. Yeah, and if you're more of a reader than a gamer and if you've never read Dune, now's the time.

That is a long-ass series that will be very immersive. True, true. Jolene writes in, I heard your update on the state of mass donations to healthcare facilities. I wanted to tip you off to the movement of creating homemade reusable face masks. And this is an article over at the New York Times, a sewing army making masks for America.

I've made a number of my own to donate to small hospitals that don't get a lot of attention even during good times. It's been a great way to spend extra time. Take care of yourselves. Yeah, it's a great movement for if you know how to sew. A lot of people are doing this now. They're making masks for themselves, their friends, to donate to local hospitals. Pretty awesome.

You know, wartime spirit. It's amazing. I know a lot of people in my neighborhood that are doing that too. It's one of those things when you're yelling across the street. How are you doing? I'm just sitting inside making masks. I'm like, what? They're like, yeah, yeah, we found the patterns. We're just making masks and taking them to the local hospitals and clinics.

I'm like, good for you. Good for you. I can't sew to save my life. I would be in intensive care because I'd be sticking my fingers all the time and bleeding out. Yes, you should probably not do this. Fred says, here's an interesting article in French, sorry, about Swisscom, our main cell provider in Switzerland, who's been asked by the government to give away users' location to control gathering of people during COVID-19 limitations.

So if you're a French and can read this, go for it. But I think this is going to be the new normal. Yeah, I think it's the new normal too. Yep. And here's Cameron again, one of the 1700 that he sent us this week. We do appreciate it. But I did like this one because I'd been meaning to do an article and a follow-up about this and I get my chance to do it now.

Cameron says, there are some positives that are coming from the coronavirus. I'm not arguing that it is worth the cost of the outbreak. It's nice to look at some of the upsides sometimes. And this is from OneTreePlanted.org, the surprising climate change benefits of coronavirus. The TLDR on this article, no travel, no commuting, equals lower carbon footprints.

Air quality is improved in lockdown areas. Coal use has plummeted, et cetera. I can speak for Los Angeles. When you go outside, it is beautiful. It is stunningly gorgeous. There is no smog at all. It is the cleanest skies I've seen ever. However, having said all of that, here's the article that I wanted to get in here.

There's a lot of viral bullshit going around. Fake animal news abounds on social media as coronavirus upends life. This is from National Geographic. I'm sure a lot of you remember just a scant week or so ago that we were getting all these posts of different things that are happening because humans aren't going out and the animals are bouncing back and running free in a humanless world.

But a lot of it wasn't real. The swans in the viral posts regularly appear in the canals, a small island in the greater Venice metropolitan area where the photos were taken. They have not broken back into Maine of Menace. They've been there the whole time. The Venetian dolphins were filmed at a port in Sardinia in the Mediterranean Sea, hundreds of miles away.

The drunken elephants, that was bullshit too. Nobody has been able to figure out where the photos came from. A Chinese news report debunked the posts. While the elephants did recently come through a village in the province, their presence isn't out of the norm. They aren't the elephants in the photos and they didn't get drunk and pass out in a tea field.

It's all bullshit. Oh, are you saying that people are using this as a way to get Instagram famed? Yes. Yes, I believe I am. Jeff writes in. At what point in the COVID-19 scare timeline do companies who set up employees to work from home keep them working at home even after the crisis has passed?

What pros and cons do you see? As a designer slash CAD draftsman in the film biz, I'd be over the fucking moon to see a strong work at home precedent evolving. Well, you and me both, buddy. You and me both. Well, I think what we're going to find out is that some industries are good for it and some are not. Some people are good for it.

Some are not. Like most things. I'd imagine most people, certainly my wife falls into this category, will run screaming and crying back to their offices after this is over. I see a lot of offices that can do it, maybe shifting to two to three days in office with options to work at home the other days.

A lot of infrastructure has got to be built out for successful telecommuting for larger companies. So I know a lot of companies, I know quite a few CEOs that are really looking into this right now that are seeing a potential culture shift, but it's really going to come down to the individuals.

I think a lot of you are finding out that working from home is not working for you very well. So we'll see. Yeah, I'm waiting for the Instagram memes. It's like, you know, everybody's both bored at home, bored at home, bored at home. And then the first week they have to go back to the office.

It's like, can we get another pandemic so I can go back home? Bored at work, bored at work, bored at work. Yeah, that's human nature. Yeah. Wherever you go, there you are. Yep. And MidRoss writes in regarding Amazon Prime delays. Maybe it varies by area, but the delayed delivery times given at order time haven't held true for me in Phoenix.

Yeah. I mean, this is what we've kind of been talking about. Again, they were hedging their bets. Stuff is coming through. Yeah, yeah. And Grant writes in this one. He's like, wash your Prime packages? Truly disgusting. Amazon delivery guy deliberately spits on package that was caught on a ring cam.

And this is from TMZ. It's a TMZ exclusive. And it's like they found the guy. I don't know if they've followed up yet with any prosecutorial issues. I think it's going to be fined and fired. Fined and fired. Well, I mean, look at the woman who went and coughed on all the groceries at that store and before and got like, you know, had them destroyed $35,000 worth of produce.

She was arrested and they're treating this as like, you know, a terrorist act now if you do this kind of shit because they want to nip it in the bud. So hopefully this guy, you know, just gets what he deserves because it's bullshit. Yep. And Joe writes in, I've never been into any of the Star Trek series except the original series I watched as a kid.

You guys have given really good reviews of the new Picard series. So I started to watch it. All I can say is it's amazing. I'm only a few episodes in, but loving it. Also, have you guys watched the show Dev? I don't remember you guys talking about it. I just found it on Hulu, but haven't watched it yet. Any thoughts? I have not watched that. I have not watched it because it's on Hulu, even though I have Hulu.

Trying to find anything on Hulu is a fool's errand because seriously, still worst interface ever. Yeah. And I just got to throw in this for you, Joe. Go watch Star Trek The Next Generation. I think Jason and I can both agree, and most people do. It is our favorite of all the Star Trek series.

So check it out. We don't agree on that because I think Deep Space Nine is my favorite of the three. Deep Space Nine, Next Gen, and then Picard. There you go. Ralph writes in, hi, geeks. Hope your sheltering at home is going well. Here's an interesting factoid about one of the results of that trend.

And it's an article at CNN, why Walmart is seeing a rise in sales for tops, but not bottoms during the coronavirus crisis. And we just missed this one on the show last week. It's been around. But yeah, everybody's buying nice shirts because they don't need pants when they're doing their Zoom calls. That's about it.

And $8 Steve writes us. He is the one that originally suggested the $1 per episode a while ago. He wanted to say thanks for our podcast and all that we do and wrote us a very nice, very long, very lovely letter. So thank you so much, $8 Steve.

And thank you for starting that movement. We appreciate it. Elaine writes in, there are some nasty people out there. A Norwegian school quit using video calls after a naked man guessed the meeting link. And yes, this is a part of the Zoom issue that we've been talking about where people are out there trying to just, you know, basically doing random number generators to try and find all the Zoom meetings that are out there.

So guys showed up naked. What are you going to do? You know, most of these things let you put a passcode on your damn passcodes. People don't be lazy. Exactly. Start to lock that down. This is not, this, this is not your, uh, your security camera of the, uh, the early aughts, you know, put a password on it.

Mike writes in, I swore I wouldn't add any more podcasts, but I'm a fan of the Jordan Harbinger show and I checked yours out based on Jason's recommendation. You recommended it to your own show. Interesting. Yes, of course I did. Every week on Feedback Friday. This is like hanging out with a couple of friends. If my friends were as grumpy as I am and more technologically aware, thank you for helping me stay sane while I'm stuck in my apartment, hoping to avoid the plague.

You're welcome. Fiend of the show, Barrett sent in this other one and says, this seems about fitting right now. And it's a, uh, it's an image of the dude says, Hey man, just give the corporations a relief check equal to what they pay in taxes. Amen to that brother. Brian writes in, I was just listening to episode 425 and you asked for a good note sharing app for Android.

And I really like to use Google keep. It is really easy to add collaborators on any notes. There you go. Android people. Carson writes in, are you guys familiar with the project folding at home? I've seen that we can donate our processing power to help fight diseases. Should I trust that my computer is actually helping and not being now part of some kind of botnet used to mine Bitcoins or DDoSing sites.

Folding at home is a long established, uh, thing. So yeah, it's run by reputable companies. You can trust them. We've been, we've actually mentioned them a couple of times. It's the same people that did SETI at home. It's, you're fine. It's legit. Don't worry. Yeah. And they're actually using this to help break down the, the coronavirus right now.

So, uh, yeah, you're fine. You're not giving somebody else Bitcoin. So all good. And Lynn sends in a link from Bing catching up on the last four shows and heard you were looking at CV 19 dashboards. This one is by Microsoft and Azure and it breaks it down even more than the one you spoke of.

This allows you to drill down to the County news articles, et cetera. So very cool. Check that one out as well, but I'm sticking with my John hops, John. Hopskins one, John's John's Hopskins, Harvey Manfrigens. It's a nice one.

It looks nice, but yeah, I'm sticking with, uh, I'm sticking with the Johns Hopkins one myself and Ed writes in an episode 425, you mentioned rat attack from the Gregory brothers. This is the third episode in the series with chicken attack and chicken pig attack preceding this one. The videos make a little more sense.

If watched in order, I find that very hard to believe. I find that very hard to believe. I also feel like I've had my fill. I don't need any more. Yes. Takeo Ishii is the star of the series who is known in Germany as the Japanese yodeler. And he gives us a link to the website.

Yes. And in Germany, David Hasselhoff is also known to have talent. Yes. Hop in my car. Oh, I love that David Hasselhoff song. Okay. Michaela writes in, uh, for the Brian who wrote in feedback loop, looking for a sink grocery list app.

My roommate and I use our home for our apartments. You can add items to shopping lists as well as keep track of tasks. Stop editing while I'm trying to read. Jason, it keeps jumping all over the place. Sorry. Making it very difficult. Trying to make things look nice. All of a sudden, Michaela's comment disappeared from my screen.

And I'm like, okay, I didn't memorize the next line. We can add. Podcasting. We can add items to a shopping list as well as keep track of tasks that need to be done. Like who needs to clean the litter boxes and when it was last done, et cetera. Oh, great. So you can shame your person that you're stuck in with for three months.

Uh, we also have treat yourself rewards set up to motivate us for those chores we really don't want to do. For example, if I collect a certain amount of points, I can claim a reward to let me buy a video game for myself as a treat. Self-motivation is difficult with depression and anxiety, especially these days, but I can always bribe myself with video games.

Alternatively, if you want an app that's only a shopping list, Got Milk is good. Neither app has in-app purchases or subscriptions. Thank you. The links will be in the show notes. And over on iTunes, we have one review this week by Seattle Gene in the USA here. Too good to be true. Five stars.

How to perfect a podcast. Listen to the pod heads of pod heads. Well, thank you. If you want your question or comment read on the show, possibly edited because you guys are writing in fucking books at this point, head over to gog.show slash contact and send us your feedback or questions that we can read on the air.

And if you're so inclined, please head over to gog.show slash iTunes and toss us a five star and snarky review. And since you've got so much time on your hands, make sure you click those stars in overcast. We appreciate it. Closing shout outs.

Shout out to everyone listening who's doing what they can to make this whole damn thing less of a burden on the human race and not more of one. When this is over, history is going to judge the people that did the wrong things when they knew that protecting their fellow humans was what was important. The self-centered assholes that are out there possibly spreading the virus will be the first against the wall when we press play on the world again.

When someone loses a member of their family that could have been prevented by everyone staying at home and writing this thing out, they're going to be looking for blood. So all you selfish assholes who just couldn't stay home or encouraged other people to go out because of whatever fucked up thing in your brain thinks this is a big nothing burger.

Well, prepare for social justice because it's coming for you. And you should probably keep in mind that we're all going to have our individual heat maps because there is no privacy anymore that will show exactly where we've gone over the past month. And we will all be able to see them. Yep.

So just be prepared for that. Next time you want to go out and have a jog with your buddies, you know, you can have a solo jog all you want. Have a solo walk or with the people that you live with. But don't have a party, you dumb motherfuckers. Until next time, I'm Jason DeFilippo.

And speaking of walks, I need to take my kid out for one right now. And I'm Brian Schulmeister. Thanks for listening to Grumpy Old Geeks. To support the show and keep us on the air, go to gog.show slash donate. Toss us a few bucks and we'll love you forever. Your support really keeps us going and in place at home with food and we really appreciate it.

Show notes for this episode are at gog.show slash 427. From there, you can find links to old episodes, leave feedback, ask questions, donate to the show, and get links to stuff we like. Stay home. Thank you to Chris Franklin for these lyrics. The world has caught a virus, so I've written you a poem.

We need your help to cure it, so stay the fuck at home. And if you have got 12 kids or you're living on your own, lock it down and isolate and stay the fuck at home. If you think you're not at risk here, you're living in a dome. It spreads faster than a hooker's leg, so stay the fuck at home.

I need the gym. I need the beach. I hear you bitch and moan. You need to grow a brain cell and stay the fuck at home. But I feel fine. I don't feel sick. I'll go out on my own. How thick are you? You selfish prick.

Please just stay the fuck at home. From LA through to Berlin, from Wuhan through to Rome. There's people dying every day, so stay the fuck at home. If you need to contact family, use Facebook, Skype or phone. We've got the fucking internet, so stay the fuck at home.

The only way to slow it down is isolate, not roam. Please help the world get back on track and stay the fuck at home. Stay the fuck at home. Stay the fuck at home. Don't you be a fucking dick. Please stay the fuck at home. Stay the fuck at home.

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